Rizzo23601 hat geschrieben:
Ich hoff dass das hier die richtige sektion dafür is...
wie genau funktioniert ne talkbox? hab schon gegooglet, aber hab nicht rausbekommen ob der interpret wirklich spricht, das heisst laute "ausstößt"
, oder ob er nur seine mundhöhle usw... verformt und dadurch die worte erzeugt.
und: was is der unterschied zwischen ner talkbox und nem vocoder?
UND: welche talkbox-alben bzw. interpreten kennt ihr außer zapp?
skreel hat geschrieben:
talkbox = vocorder
man singt oder redet ganz normal in's mic und dann verzeiht sich das so.
Schore hat geschrieben:
Also so wie ich das versteh:
The Talkbox is a device famously employed by Peter Frampton to create a singing guitar sound. It uses the cavity of the mouth to shape the frequency response of an audio source.
A loudspeaker is set in an airtight box, with a tube coming out of the box and into the mouth of the player. Another tube then connects the mouth to a microphone. This effectively turns the mouth into a filter in the audio path of the system.
As the audio source is played, the mouth can be moved to form vowel sounds in the music. A similar, effect can be created with the much more technically advanced vocoder.
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Vocoder:
Short for vocal encoder. An electronic audio device which allows synthesizers to 'sing'.
Operation
A vocoder takes two input signals; a modulator and a carrier. The output consists of the waveform of the carrier, colored with the frequency spectrum of the modulator. Typically the carrier input will be a synthesizer, and the modulator input will be a microphone.
The modulator is split to an array of bandpass filters, each one examining a unique frequency band. The amplitude of the output of each frequency band is passed forward to the carrier module. The carrier signal is split into a second array of bandpass filters, of the same frequency bands as the first. The output is a mix of the outputs of the second array of bandpass filters, with the level controlled by the amplitude of the signal in the first array.
More simply stated, you can imagine a graphic equalizer on the carrier, and the height of each slider is being constantly updated according to a spectrum analyser showing the frequency spectrum of the modulator.
A vocoder cannot add frequencies which are not present in the carrier. It can only emphasise frequencies which are in the carrier and modulator, and subtract frequencies which are present in the carrier but missing from the modulator. Therefore for best results, the carrier signal should have a wide bandwidth, such as a sawtooth wave or white noise. The worst case would be a sine wave carrier, which would simply change in amplitude.
A vocoder with a large number of very narrow bands will pass the modulator signal more accurately, although the computing power (if digital) increases dramatically.
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Also selber Effekt, verschiedene Methode.
bigdickgangsta hat geschrieben:
quik hat immer viel mit talkbox gemacht
Rizzo23601 hat geschrieben:
ich glaub skreel hat keinen plan und verbreitet das allgemeine halbwissen
das is irgendwie so dass die sounds von einem instrument durch den schlauch in den mund gelangen wo sie dann verformt werden, oder so
wollt wissen ob man dabei redet oder nur formt...
bigdickgangsta hat geschrieben:
beides gleichzeitig würd ich sagen , bis es sich geil anhört . wird schon nicht jeder dodo können , oder jedenfalls nicht so dass es sich gut anhört . braucht sicher wie jedes instrument übung .
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das haste nur für mich geschrieben! 
so computervoice hat slick dogg nen paar hammer beats