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: So where are you from originally?
Khule: Born and raised in South Central Los Angeles.
What was it like growing up there?
(laugh) It was wild man. I've been through so much crazy stuff growing up in the inner city of LA. It's the wildest. I wouldn't have changed nothing though, that made the person that I am. I went through a lot of crazy ass @#%$. I was shot at when I was eight years old. You know, drive bye's, robbing cars at ten. I mean, @#%$, I was going through possibly everything you can think of growing up in the ghetto. That @#%$ was wild thought. It's one of the wildest places on earth, man. I mean you saw the 92' riots right? Yeah, we started that (laugh).
So, how did you get into music and how long have you been doing it for?
My family is mostly all musicians you know. It was just a natural progression for me to get into too. I've been rapping personally since like 84? Maybe like two years after that I started getting a little bit more serious about it. My first two years was just freestyling and @#%$-clowning and bag rappin'.
Who were some of your earlier influences?
In hip-hop my earlier infuences would have to be:
RUN-DMC, Fat Boys, LL Cool J, UTFO, Whodini, Melly Mell, Kool Mo D, Chill Rock G. Just Ice and Kool G Rap.
So how did you get the name "Rifleman"?
Well, that actually has like three stories to it (laugh). There's a tame version to it and a wild version to it.
Pterra: Yeah, he ain't lying.
It really derived from the 92' riots, I'ma keep it real. The 92' riots, we was @#%$ @#%$ up in LA and doing our thing and my sister came across on some artillery. Then she gave it to my homeboy and I took it from him like, "Naw, this is my @#%$. This is my family, so I'm taking it." It ended up being a 30 eye six. I started carrying it in the back of my trunk. All through LA, like carrying a loaded 30 eye in the trunk. So we were going to little hip-hop places and the homies was in the van bagging on me saying, "This is the only fool that carry a 30 eye six in his trunk. And he got that dimple in his chin and he kinda' looks like Chuck Conners." They were like, "This muh' fucka' thinks he's the Rifleman." I thought that @#%$ sounded kinda' tight. So I was like, I'm gonna change it on ya'll; ya'll baggin' and roasting on me and then from there on I just kept that name. It actually started off as a joke and then a title. Then it blew up bigger than anything else.
So, you used to just roll around with a loaded rifle in your trunk?
Yup. Yup.
Pterra: (laugh) He had it in a pool stick case. You would of thought he was a pool player.
I would be bringing it up at the Good Life and pulling it out in the parking lot.
JXL: How's that muh' fucka' sound?
That @#%$ sounded like a cannon.
JXL: BOOM! (laugh).
The first time I shot it I had to lean up against the wall, cuz' people were telling me, "That shits got a hell of a kick" and I was like, "ok-ok." I leaned up against the wall in the backyard...BOOOOM (laugh). I was like, "Oh, @#%$!"
So, you go by both Ellay Khule and Rifleman then?
Yeah, see really it's like two different entities. Rifleman he's like a wild boy. He rides around about it, bout-it, bout-it. He's ready to kick up some dirt. Ellay Khule he's really on the more creative and innovated style of it, you know. Progressive. I break their music into two separate categories. My album, "Riflemania" is more on the Rifleman tip whereas before, the upitty stuff is more Ellay Khule on that level. Rifleman will make some @#%$ for the gangsers, for your sister, for your mom, you know what I mean? Then Ellay Khule he's more into musicians and the hip-hop kids asking, "When are you going to do some more of that furious fast @#%$?"
I know a lot of people who are reading this probably know about the Project Blowed, but how did it come about and who started it?
Yeah, we all started the "Blowed", but actually the "Blowed" was a spin off of the Goodlife. The Goodlife was the first spot and that started in 89'-90'. We picked up on it in late 1990. I was going there, but I wasn't really telling all of my homies about the spot, because it really wasn't all of that yet. I would only go like one in every four Thursday's.
What was it like back then?
At first you would see somebody on the stage and they would have all kinds of tables and stuff. There would be about ten or fifteen people there just rapping; rapping frivolously I would say, you know (laugh). But then, progressively every Thursday it got another two people... and then another two people... and another two people. Then once I saw that there was a small crowd, I was like, "Yeah, I'm going to come up here every Thursday now." When I got there the only groups were CVE, which was at the time: Fish, Ridd, Tray and JB Smooth. Mika9 and Acealone were there, but this is before the Freestyle Fellowship had formed. There were a couple of groups, but primarily once it got started groups shifted and it did end up being: CVE, HipHopKlan, Freestyle Fellowship, Urban Props and Unity Committee. These were some of the main groups that really kicked everything off at the spot and maintained throughout time.
From 90'-94' we had the Goodlife. We ended up having problems with the organizer of the event, so as a collective we all left. We told the person that was organizing the spot, "It's not you that the people are coming to see, it's us."
We could leave and still have the same energy and that same activity, so that therefore bridged the "Project Blowed." We left the Goodlife and made Project Blowed in 94'.
How many people are in Project Blowed?
There is A LOT. There's allot of groups, man. At least... officially there is about 25 groups.
Are you tight with all of them?
Not really. What do you say when somebody let's you in, but it's not official? (pause). I would call them more "honorary" Project Blowed, because they didn't go through the thick and thin of what the real groups went through. We would all battle each other everyday. We would get teams up like, me and Ac vs. Mike9 and Ridd. We would battle each other solo, groups, teams and all of that stuff. A lot of people didn't go through that. Like Acid Rain, I'm gonna' call them out.
Pterra: A lot of those new groups from that generation are honorary.
There was another group called, Log Cabin. Some of them are now in Living Legends.
Pterra: They denounced their crew name when we asked them what was up.
We came with a crew called the Lumber Jacks and dismembered those muh' fucka's. We were actually going up to them individually, ridin' at them, you know? People always take this rap @#%$ for just rap. We were the hard grain of the Goodlife and the Project Blowed and still are. We were the muh' fucka's that didn't take no @#%$. Like if you talked @#%$ we was gonna' fight, @#%$ it. Almost every time something happened we were in it.
So, a lot of those guys in Log Cabin actually ended up leaving LA, right?
Yeah, we gonna call them out.
You all just pretty much kicked them out of LA?
We just made them break up that group and we didn't get care if they went, because we would never come around anyways. They had a mix of so and so's style mixed in with someone else's style, but they never came through. They never battled. We never saw them, so whenever we would see them we would sweat them and be like, "What's up? Ya'll some biting muh' fucka's." We were like, forget rapping at the time, we were gonna' beat them up, really. That's why they broke their little crew up. But now, I'm cool with a couple of them. Some of them got their own style now. It took them a couple of years to actually break off and get something original.
Obviously, I know that it bothers you that people bite your style and all, but do you take it as a compliment sometimes?
It depends on who, what, when and where. I've got a couple of homies that did a little of nibblization here and there and that's flattering to me, you know. But the whole thing that sets me off is when a muh' fucka' try to do my style and then battle me with it. You know, you better give homage and bow down...That's the whole thing that really tripped me out, is when you're in a circle with someone and they start rapping a certain way and then you start rapping a certain way and then they come back trying to rap like that. It's like, how are you going to battle me with that style? If these people that were doing it would actually say I listen to so and so and I like so and so then that would be cool; but their out there big uppin' themselves. But then, if their in our group, or our area, or our little section and their actually riding with us on a day to day, weekly basis then sometimes that's alright; but they have to still bring out their own character in it. It can't just be a total bite. You can't just bite off one chunk and then just leave it. You have to take that and be influenced by it. You know, you can be influenced by somebody without taking that exact thing. I mean, how are you going to be me? How are you going to be MY character? You can't. But you can come out with your own personality within that, but a lot of people don't do that.
Pterra: Yeah, that's how I learned how to rap, being around this nigga' and @#%$. I heard him rap and I wanted to @#%$ it up too. I was young, trying to write chopping ass raps. My big homie, DJ Troo, I came at the nigga with a chop rap when I was 12 and he was like, "Yeah, that's cool, but you're getting older now. You need to start rappin' like you're an older person" (laugh).
So who's all in the HipHopKlan?
That would be DJ Troo, myself, Ellay Khule, JXL and Terradactyl. Those are the active working members, but we got some younger family in it too. My nephew Daronik, he's on that new "Thomakazi" album. My niece, Princess Neika, she's on that CD, but they have their own group, Minor Leauge. Their a part of our group, but they are also are doing their own thing.
So what other groups or crews are you affiliated with?
I'm affiliated with a lot of muh' fucka's, but mostly Project Blowed: Freestyle Fellowship, CVE, OMD, Legion, Cypher 7, ATU (Abstract Rude and Tribe Unique), Bus Driver, Easty Boys, Rumble pack, I'm cool with the visionaries, Jurassic 5, Volume 10, Urban Props, Medusa, Solo, Feline Science, The Five Footers, Super Nat, Phoenix Orion. We even had affiliations back in the day with Korrupt. Who else? Um, Hobo Junction, The Living Legends, I'm cool with my homies the Mystic Journeymen- Those are my folks right there. That's basically it, all West Coast. There's a lot of heads though.
Pterra: Regular street gangster rappers (laugh).
Actually, you said that you're into CMW (Compton's Most Wanted). I don't know if you know that Fat Jack was involved in their production with DJ Slip.
Do you know all of those CMW cats?
I don't know them, but I know DJ Slip though, because he still comes around Fat Jack's spot. They got old pictures of them together in Adidas fits and old hats from the early 80's. Fat Jack goes back with a lot of early LA hip-hop.
What about the Pharcyde?
JXL: We punked the Pharcyde.
Pterra: Yeah, we beat them up.
JXL: It was all bullshit.
That was Wreccless. Wreccless was in HipHopKlan when he beat up Fat Lip.
When was this?
This was a few years back.
JXL: There was two of them though. We beat that nigga' out of his shirt and shoes. I socked him so hard that his sweater came off.
We did a lot of wild stuff, you know. We're actually living that real true LA hip-hop life.
JXL: We gangsta's who rap you know what I mean?
I wouldn't say that we were thugs, because thugs don't give a @#%$, they just do whatever and we actually have all been through the street mill of that LA gang stuff, so we know the street life, but we chose to go get ourselves out of that element, so that we can do better things. At the same time though, we did a lot of crazy stuff. We weren't doing it just to be like, "I can do this" it was just a way of life for us. We weren't promoting @#%$; I'm speaking from what my eyes have seen and what I have done and what I've been through in my life.
Pterra: You ain't just talking about guns nigga', you roll around with a God Damn rifle in your trunk, mutha' fucka'.
Yeah, but I ain't trying to glorify it like, yeah I got a gun and I use it. You know, so what? If I'm gonna talk about it it's gonna be like how I wrote the song, "Rifleman." I try to talk about it in an illustrative way where you can actually get into the story of a gunman. Not any glorification or nothing, but more like we're the gunman of the wildwest, lyrically. Sort of like how you see all those cowboy movies, that's how the "Rifleman" song was written, like a cowboy flick. You know, where they go into bars, take the bottle and slap somebody upside the head with it and then everybody starts brawling and then PAP-PAP-PAP with the double shooters. It's like a lyrical movie.
Pterra: When I'm out there pitching the cd's to a new customer or a new fan base I always tell them, he's the Rifleman and he spits raps like bullets.
The fastest gun on the west (laugh). That's my new phrase.
I know you guys do everything yourself from start to finish.
Yeah. Especially on our new album, I produced mostly the whole thing. We really work inside our circle. Ridd from CVE did some beats. We might use a beat from Fat Jack. OD and Nobody used to do a lot of stuff for me on my "Riflemanz Kclassixx 2"; they had some production on there. I used to work with them from like, 93' to 96'.
That was a mix of old stuff, right?
Yeah, old @#%$. A lot of the tracks were popular songs that people just knew and the rest were just songs I thought the people should have. I was going around on tour doing shows and people would be yelling in the crowd, " o this song" and "Whatever happened to that song?" So I got all the old @#%$ together and put that @#%$ out. We got another one coming out too, "Rifleman Kcassixx 3" and we got HipHopKlan, "Klandestine 2" coming out and we got, "Illegal Bootlegs" coming out.
And you guys do everything from put the cover in the cd's to seal it, right?
Yeah exactly, everything from conceptualize to putting on the plastic rap.
So, then you take them to the stores?
Yeah, we hit all the stores up. Some of them already got some @#%$ and some of them we might have to pitch it to them.
Do you actually go out on the street and sell them?
Yeah, we do that too. Like Terra and JXL they sell mix tapes on the street, clocking like a note a day off that. For the most part, we sell our stuff at shoes and @#%$ like that. You can get off the Curbserver sight. Basically, you can get it all over.
Have you done shows coast to coast?
I've done shows all over the United States. All over. I'm about to go abroad soon. We got a show next month in Germany, 14 shows actually. Then I'm supposed to go to Japan after that, but I don't know if I'm going to go yet. I'm still a little scared to fly with everything going on right now.
What's in the future for the HipHopKlan and you personally?
We're just trying to expand on the creative side of the music and just getting out to as many people as we can, that's the goal right there. We want to reach as many ears as possible, however we got to do it. If we have to go major, we'll go major. But at the same time, we're always going to have our independent ties and do independent things. Even if I get on a major label, I'll still put out underground @#%$ under ghost names, so I can still keep it real with the underground side if I ever flip major. That's the whole deal you know? Reach as many people worldwide as you can.
I know you guys have a lot of mainstream artists that bite your styles too, right?
The whole thing right now is that our music is so circulated that you can get that @#%$ anywhere if you're really a hip-hopper. You can find it in a mom and pops store in every city.
Pterra: Rifleman is platinum (laugh).
The mainstream knows what's up with Freestyle Fellowship. I've heard so many rappers giving props to them from RUN DMC to Busta' Rhymes. You already know that they know what's going on with us. So many people be giving us props on their albums.
As a musician you pay attention to everything out there, so I'm sure that other artists know what you all are up to, right?
JXL: Yeah, they scared of the HipHopKlan.
Have any mainstream artists ever come up to you before and said that they are really feeling your music?
Actually you know who is a big fan of ours, is Brotha' J from the X-Clan. He's always around, but he's a real mutha' fucka' though. Most of these people though, their not going to say @#%$, especially if they're biting. It's actually a good thing in one way, because they actually give the mainstream listener a little bit of what's to come. They actually like open it up a little bit, cuz' our @#%$ is way deeper as far as style wise and content wise, compared to what they actually come out with. Like I said about them fools that kick it up at the Blowed. They only take one little part and then after a while, that one little part you can't really do much with it. You see all they got is eggs, but no flower or no sugar. The whole @#%$ rap industry right now is on that @#%$ and we've been doing it for like ten years plus now. Eminem bit it too after we served him.
Yeah, you served him at the Goodlife right?
No, he came to Project Blowed. They were out here for a battle in LA. We served them. It was Thurston Howell, Wordsworth, a cat named Juice, Eminem and Quest the Mad Lab. They were battling against me, P.E.A.C.E, Othawize, Ridd and Acealone. We fuct em' up. We fuct them up bad. It was short and quick. They were begging us just to stop saying, "It wasn't supposed to be like this.." This was right after Othawize served up Eminem on a head up battle. We've influenced a lot of mutha' fucka's.
Who else have you served?
Damn, there's a lot of people. @#%$, everybody we've came across. Collectively from the Blowed, we've probably served at least half of the industry. I remember when Abstract Rude served Ghostface Killa' on the radio.
Yeah, I got that.
(Laugh) Ha, clowing him. It was either Ghostface or Capadona, one of the two. I think it was Capadona.
Wasn't Killa Priest in it too?
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Re: RIFLEMAN INTERVIEW AS SEEN IN VAPORS MAGAZINE
« Reply #9 on: Oct 2nd, 2002, 1:31pm »
Killa Priest was probably in there. That was when the whole East Coast West Coast thing was going on. I remember one thing we did, though. We pulled Mobb Deep from up off the stage.
JXL: OH MY GOD! We took the mic's right out of their hands, nigga'.
We took their Moet too (laugh). They were trying to do that song LA LA and we weren't having that @#%$. We had the whole crowd yelling, "WEST COAST! @#%$ MOBB DEEP!" (laugh).
You pulled them off the stage at their own show?
We were on the edge of the stage and pulling on them mutha' fucka's grabbing the mic's and taking their Moet, cuz' their only like this tall (motions their height with his hands.)
JXL: I had that nigga by his shirt and was pulling on him and he was like, "AHHH!" We'll bang on who ever the @#%$ wants to try and @#%$ with us, end of story.
Did you guys ever get caught up in gang banging?
JXL: I did.
Not really banging, more personal @#%$. The problems we have are more on some personal @#%$. We got into it at the Blowed too. I've had to knock some people out, but that was on some personal rap @#%$. You know, battling, that @#%$ gets serious. A lot of people don't realize how serious it is. They snatch the mic out of your hand and hit the top of your cap or some @#%$.
Pterra: I don't care what the @#%$ you call me, but when nigga's start touching me then I'm going to touch em' back (laugh).
JXL: We @#%$ with everybody, homie. We fight with the police. We don't give a @#%$. We fought the police at the Blowed.
Yeah, that @#%$ was funny. See what is was, is that for a while the police were watching the Blowed and they had some people coming in there looking like hip-hoppers to see what was going on.
Pterra: They said we were communists.
Anything they could get us on to start @#%$ with us. They had there little infiltrators coming in, but we were kind of hip at the time to what was going on. Then they started coming in to see if we were taking money, because it's supposed to be donations and then they would confiscate the money and little @#%$ like that.
Pterra: Then one week they came in with a blow horn and told us to go home.
And then everybody was like, "we ain't going know where." There was like fifty officers there with their little gear on and they told us to walk down the street towards Crinshaw, but we kept saying we weren't going to move.
How many people were there?
There were about fifty people in the action, but a lot of people kept talking and talking, but when the police got closer they were gone. It just came down to it and we started swinging, throwing chairs a bottles.
So it was like 50 on 50?
No, it was like 25 of us and 50 police officers. There were a lot of kids out there at first talking all that @#%$, but when it came down to it there wasn't that many.
So you guys were right there on the front lines?
Yeah, were front lining it like, "yeah, what's up?"
The closer they got we just started throwing bottles and picking up chairs and tables. They were grabbing people and dragging people, all of that @#%$.
Did you get arrested for that @#%$?
I didn't, but my homeboy Fat Drew did.
Is there any last words that you want to say to the people out there reading this?
Pick up on that HipHopKlan, Rifleman, Ellay Khule, Project Blowed, AfterLife Affiliations, pick up on it. It's big man and we're doing things that have not been done. We're the innovators of the fast, rodeo, chop, flip, twist or whatever you want to call it we pioneered that. We're worldwide, get it before it gets you.
So where can people get your music at?
Depending on where they're at, they can get it online at _ HYPERLINK "www.curbserver.com" __www.curbserver.com_ and directly from me at _ HYPERLINK "mailto:riflemania@yahoo.com"
__riflemania@yahoo.com_. You can also get it at Aarons, Amoeba in Berkeley and San Francisco, or at Project Blowed-we sell our stuff out of there too.
Any shout outs?
Shout out's to all the hip-hoppers and my family, my blood family and my hip-hop family. All the listeners and all the people that don't listen, start listening-I'm giving them a shout out too. All the rockers and all the choppers, and all the hip-hoppin', graffiti writing, Djin’, spinning on their heads, scratch masters, all of ya'll, one love from the fastest gun in the west.