What’s the deal with the new labels that your manager, Alex Abbiss, has started – Ax & Smash Records and UMZ Entertainment?
Psychopathic Records is pretty much molded into what it’s gonna be. But Alex still wants to grow and try new things. So he opened up a couple labels, Ax & Smash and UMZ. That’s basically to do non-Juggalo affiliated things. So many people have got a big Hatchet Man tattooed on their back or something. And then if we turned around and started putting commercial acts out on Psychopathic, it would be a huge letdown. People that don’t even know what the Hatchet’s about, we can’t do that. If something comes out on Psychopathic, you’ll know that that’s got our approval. Esham’s on Psychopathic. Zug Izland’s on Ax & Smash.
I just spoke with Esham’s brother, James H. Smith, about a week ago. Now that he’s back in the picture, what’s your relationship with him and how much impact will James have?
Shit, I’m with Esham every day. We hang out as close personal friends. His brother getting out, that was the shit. I’ve known his brother forever too. His brother don’t come around much right now, but he’s still getting used to life on the outside. But he comes around to the shows and stuff and it’s always good to see James. He comes to the studio with us. I have my personal beliefs. I think he probably might be still on probation or parole or whatever. And he probably don’t like to come out with us at night because all we pretty much do is drink and smoke. So I think he might not want to come around with us when we’re doing all of that. But he comes around in the daytime and hangs with us at the studio and all of that.
Is Esham working on a new album?
Esham’s working on a bomb-ass record. I like his record because his new shit don’t have nobody on it and he did the whole thing himself. ‘Acid Rain’ and everything, that was cool and ‘Repentance’ was cool. But it wasn’t the Esham that people were used to. There were so many other people involved in his projects, but this one he’s doing all by himself. He’s doing all the music by himself and there’s no special guests on his record. That’s pretty fresh. Plus, he’s talking about doing another Natas record, which is the shit too.
James was telling me that we can expect Natas to get back together. Is Reel Life Productions going to reform under Psychopathic and is Mastamind going to reunite with Esham and TNT to be part of the project?
We haven’t talked anything about that, but that would be the shit. That would be awesome. We haven’t talked about it or had any meetings with Mastamind or anything like that. But of course they’re gonna get back together one time soon. Whether it’s through Psychopathic, Reel Life or whoever, they’re gonna do another record. They’re not done. They just took some time off.
I know you were always into Esham’s music, but were you also a fan of the Natas albums early on?
I wasn’t into the Natas as much. Because when Esham came out with the ‘Judgement Days’ and the ‘Boomin Words From Hell’ and the ‘Homey Don’t Play,’ he scared the hell out of me. Everybody was wondering, ‘Is he really like that or is he not really like that?’ But then when he came out with Natas, it showed that he had homies. It showed that he had friends. And it just took some of the mystique away for me. But it wasn’t like that for everybody else – just for me. I’ve told him that. It took away a little bit of the mystique and showed that he had homies too. I’m sure ICP did the same thing when we came out with Twiztid and all of that. There are people that probably used to listen to our old shit and wondered all those things.
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